I have the alignment tool to lock the crankshaft, camshafts and impulse sending wheel. I had 2014 328i and having no issue yet so far,but im concern about the timing chain since my car is on the list of having problems with the timing chain,i checked the vin number to see if there is a recall for that and did not see anything,what should i do to double check ?should i go to dealership and just tell them about this bulleti? Changed the exhaust VANOS. JavaScript is disabled. 130304 Cheers. cover and expose some wires and by moving around stuff they was rubbing together and i had the battery connect at that time too.need some help please thank in advance, Ok,,,,you said you smell gas and black smoke out of the exhaust, and you have wiring harness damage to Dinan piggy back,,,I would think this is your problem the harness is damaged and can be causing your problem with the fuel injectors dumping to much fuel into the engine,,,you can remove the spark plugs and see if they are fuel soaked to verify this problem,,,,I dont know if you can remove the Dinan piggy back and put it back to stock.,,,I hope this helps, Update on my car was other human error wrong timing was locking the camshaft with lobs facing down, i correct it and veh stated up right away..THANKS for taking time to assess me. Your really helpful : So how do I know when its time for a update. charger. Content on bimmerfest.com is generated by its users. Even though work time labor operation code 61 00 006 ends in 006, it is not considered a Main labor operation. dtc are 131401 and 131501 . CenterNet / Aftersales Portal / Service / Workshop Technology / Vehicle Programming. 2D56 VANOS, exhaust, starting from cold: Position not reached It looks like the car is on this recall list. The fuel pump tank pressure is good when i check but when i read the data for fuel rail its very low and drop right back to 0.. Hopefully it will prove to be a non issue. Do not replace any parts. I would just pay attention to any abnormal whine noise,,,,there is no maintenance on the timing chain. Labor operation code 00 00 006 is a Main labor operation. Ok you have a couple of things going on here,,,,that fault code just ignore,,,that fault code is a bogus fault some kind of software bug,,,,,ok you start stop function not working I dont know without looking at the car,,,,now the car shutting off while driving sound like the fuel pump and the fuel pump relay EKPS module is going bad,,,,I would have those checked out next time. Note that the desired angle was constant. Changed the solenoid valves. Do you replace the units in such case, or do you know a trick to lose them? So for the E89 Z4 only the 28i N20 powered model is affected and not the 20i sDrive? I know impulse sending wheels and camshaft they need to be lined up using a special tool. I called BMW and they said no recalls on the car and told me to take it to a BWM Official garage. I used my scope when inserting the crank pin holder and i assumed the hole in the flywheel closest to cams at tdc was the locking point, Is this correct? Can the timing chain issue be identified through scoping? SHAME ON BMW!!!!! are the codes it wont start i have a timing chain set on the way have you seen any of these engine survive after But that is all. Labor Operation: Labor Allowance: Description: My rule if its not broken dont fix it,,,,dont take the solenoids apart ok,,,,the turbo boost fault was related to the vanos faults. Engine also has forged crankshaft with 4 counterweights that is installed with shift. F10, F25, F30, F31 and F34: Also after cold start also misfire error pops up. Im getting error codes 120408 Charging Pressure Control: Switched off. one of the plug had corroded pins due to leaking pigtail from that Dinan harness and i got the DME clone. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. When engine starts cam shaft on exhaust goes all the way to the end. Maybe the function test is different with cold start faults present. Was it coincidental and maybe the bits of trash in the both VANOS spool valves cleared at the exact same time? He believes that its not enough oil pressure in the tensioner therefore is not tight as it should be. Ill check my gas cap but I need to clear this code. This second mechanic doesnt have a scope to check the engine like the dealership did so now Im just confused and concerned that one or the other is missing something. PROCEDURE I have 13 bmw 335i xdrive with a vsrf catless downpipe, afe intake, Remus exhaust, jb4 on map 2 and jb4 connect kit. Owned Program. Thanks for any input. Table 2 - Engine N20 and N26 Fault codes Model ISTA/P version / Target Integration Level All (see attachment) I12 2.53.0 / I001-14-07-500 or higher Fault codes Model ISTA/P version / Target Integration Level All (see attachment) except faults 2D55 or 131501 E84, E89 2.53.0 / E89X-14-07-500 or higher F10 2.53.2 / F010-14-07-503 or higher F15 . Connect scan tool to the 16-pin data link connector (DLC) located underneath the steering column. This will likely be the first and last BMW I will ever own. There were no faults. After several engine stop/start cycles there were still no faults. 2013 BMW X1 E84 WITH N2O MOTOR 11400ML Thanks again. The VANOS function test showed that both VANOS units were working. Thanks! Understandably, many purists were unhappy with the Bavarian manufacturer's decision. Thank you, Rev match I say problem. https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158 1/6/2014 So far I reset it and it's gone and drove it like 30 miles but kinda worried . The cam is at -18 degrees and not changing. Maybe not as loud as before but still noisy. The auto repair labor rates vary by location, your vehicle's make and model, and even your engine type. your input is much apreciated, There a BMW sib 12 15 13 which says this problem is due to a software issue with the DME ,,,,you need to program the vehicle,,,,you can see the bulletin on the Internet. He discovered it was the engine to chassis ground strap. Andrea, I just found your blog looking for answers for my used/ new to me 2013 328i with N20 engine. check out the. F30 / F31 / F32 / F33 / F34 / F36 (2012 - current). Hello there. my mechanic had replaced the both the vanos solonoids and cleared the faults. Hi bmwtechnician, Im going to trade. Glossary of Emission Coverage attachment for more information. SB-10053485-8362 Thanks for the input, do you think dealership will take my picture as evidence and approve chain replacement? I have a 2013 N20 engine in my X3 and want to remove the actuators to either clean or replace. E84 Here the vehicle was driven only at SP98. Hi Hi, I have little complicated problem with F30 N20B20 2012 engine.. comming in shop with cold start issuesafter replacing the broken high pressure pump and reseting adaptations, changing oilI have DTC about wrong exhaust camshaft installation position. I dont know how serious this is,,,but your mechanic is right to remove the valve cover and inspect the timing chain and guide rails,,,,if that is ok the check the exhaust vanos unit and intake vanos units,,,,your faults are for the exhaust side,,,the boost charge fault is due to the exhaust vanos faults. Im sorry,,,and I hate how BMW has handled the whole problem with the N20-N26 engine and timing chain issue,,,I understand your frustration with BMW and how they didnt take care of this known problem. It was somewhat cold today around 20 degrees. and cam shaft are not in alignment any more. Im planning to buy a used 2015 BMW X3 xDrive 28i and its in the list. F10 The timing chain & guides are bathed in engine oil, not fuel. Also, I keep getting this code P3195 Radiator coolant temperature signal stuck high, BMW fixed the radiator but this code keeps coming on and off, some days it stays on some days it doesnt stay on. Looks all good. 130308 VANOS, exhaust, control fault, position not reached Hi greatings from Norway i have also a Bmw 320i GT-xdrive with 97k-km i dont hear any winning on the chain.I dont find in your list f34 320i Gt from 07.2013 that means that is not afected or just is not on the list i called allso BMW-and they said that my car is not on the extendet waranty list.Im verry stresed with this timming chain issue every time when i go on the car i listen to the engine is like ridding a time bomb.I am paning to change the timming chain at 150k-km even if is not making the noise.And whi there so many 328i afected and 320i not does it matter if mine is a xdrive?does the chain is more under load fi the care is x-drive? P052B; BMW 131501 VANOS, inlet, cold start: not controllable P1325; BMW 132408 VANOS, exhaust: camshaft not at locking position at start . document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. If it is not on the list then it is not covered under that bulletin,,,but BMW does have some other programs,,,you need to go to the dealer and have your key remote reader performed and it will say if you are covered for any timing chain defects. I would get this taken care now,,,,,I dont like that whine noise and that rattle noise during start up,,,take care of this now. Its a bit like on the list, the block of 20i and 28i is quite close, so why one seems more impacted than the other (the higher torque?). I went to the shop today to see what codes it was and i got a code: P13C0. If a control module was working properly and/or had no related faults stored prior to vehicle Direksiyon kilidi/Kontak alteri BMW paralar 47738. 00 00 006 Refer to KSD2 Performing vehicle test (with vehicle The VANOS cold start faults would reappear within 15 seconds of startup. Do you know if the new Vanos assemblies comes with the upgraded bolts or do I still need to change out the 4 Vanos Gear bolts on a new assembly? Sorry for the confusion, I understand you have the N20 engine,,,,what Im saying on the N20 engine the vans unit failing is not a common problem like the N51,,,,,on the N20 engine there are no replacement bolts for the vanos unit not like the N51. You think BMWNA would cover timing chain here if brought in for inspection? Whether the engine is cold or warm, the VANOS faults appear within 15 seconds of startup. Since its not on the list, does this mean this timing chain guide failure is highly unlikely? Nope,,,,its up to the dealership to make the call for BMW if they will fix the timing chain issue on your car under the TSB. Since the picture was taken by me not by the dealer. but after 3-4 minutes these fault codes with a message -Drivetrain problem comes in the display. Here is a video of whats happening today. E84 and E89: Come join the discussion about Bimmerfest events, production numbers, programming, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! You can't just bolt it up and clear the fault. The oil was black though. I tried to reset vanos with no success. Thanks. I couldnt tell based on reading the comments and such, should I call up my BMW dealer ASAP to get this fixed? But when I try to test VANOS data via ISTA it gives no data, only 0. No turnover on start at all. This TC issue really is so unfortunate, at a time when BMWAG is behind upstart like Tesla and old foes like Audi. Charging pressure control: Switch-off as consequence Apr 14, 2022 BMW F30 328i 2013 N20 engine "Drivetrain malfunction etc" comes on occasionally. Like how does this whole update thing work why didnt I have this update system on my 2009 328xi. It cannot be timing. I just can't find a procedure on removing the valve cover and locking down the cams. The documentation claimed that it would take one minute for the VANOS cold start faults to appear. The process of deleting the faults and restarting the car was performed many times. A service advisor at a reputable independent repair shop was concerned about the brief rattle/stutter (5 second mark) in this video upon ignition. i took it to a euro car guy that i know he flashed the transmission and that solved the problem, did you get it sorted I, having the same faults. its really a shame that BMW does not step up. Valvetronic Actuator Replacement Kit Includes actuator, actuator gasket and valve cover gaskets Brand: ES#: 4164466 Mfg#: 11377603979KT5 Qty: Availability: In Stock $243.84 Add to Cart Free Shipping on orders $59 and up Valvetronic Actuator Replacement Kit Includes actuator, actuator gasket and valve cover gaskets Brand: ES#: 4164462 Mfg#: The BMW N20 is a 1.6 and 2.0 L (98 and 122 cu in) turbocharged four-cylinder DOHC petrol engine with variable valve lift and variable valve timing which replaced the N53 (or BMW N52 in some markets) and was produced from 2011 to 2017 by BMW. N20/N26 is an attemptof BMWAG to reclaim 4-cylinder glory from the past, e.g. Do you think it has to do something with the timing belt. when he took a test drive, the codes again cam back. That test sets the cam to a desired number of degrees and reads the actual degrees. Thank you in advance. I appreciate your help. 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